Monday, August 12, 2019

Oops, They Did It Again


This one smells to high heaven.

Next to KSM, Jeffrey Epstein had to be the highest value prisoner in our entire system.  Running a pedophile and sex trafficking ring, Epstein apparently shuttled some of the rich and famous in politics, business and academia to his private island.  Escaping a long sentence with a plea bargain the first time around, Epstein was charged again and faced an extended period in the clink.  Bill Clinton took at least a couple of dozen excursions to Pedophile Island with him, flight logs show.

But a funny thing happened on the way to trial.  This billionaire sex trafficker, who was placed on suicide watch after his attempted suicide a couple of weeks ago, turned up dead.

The internet exploded with conspiracy theories, memes and jokes in bad taste.

Within hours of the reports, I received several emails and texts asking what I thing happened.

In an era of fake news, I have learned not to react to initial reports, but it appears that Epstein was taken off suicide watch on the recommendation of the prison warden and a psychiatrist.  Other reports are that the prison staff violated protocol by not checking in on him every 30 minutes.  Another report said that there was a “surveillance camera malfunction.”

I’m no Alex Jones but none of this adds up.

The Wall Street Journal tweeted out this headline yesterday afternoon:  The death of Jeffrey Epstein leaves unanswered questions and diminished hopes for a full accounting of his wrongdoings.
Duh.  I think this was probably the point.

Epstein’s death has Clintonian fingerprints all over it.  

First, both of the Clintons are very, very skilled at obfuscation, and have a long history of having absolutely no inhibitions about straightforward falsifications.  From “I did not have sexual relations with that woman” to BleachBit and smashed Blackberries, the Clintons have acquired “a particular set of skills,”  telling bold lies and then covering it up, muddying the waters and throwing enough dust in the air to string out the investigative process, and then saying “oh, that’s old news.”  They are experts at layering defenses, throwing underlings under the bus, and changing stories as investigators get close to the truth.  They are world class operators.

The chances that the warden took the risky step of taking Epstein off suicide watch AND protocol was violated on this high value prisoner without outside influence or instruction is very very low.  This was no Podunk jail in some South Carolina one horse town housing the town drunk.  This was no job for Barney Fife.  

Second, the method matches the Clintons.   It has become a national joke that anyone with dirt on the Clintons ends up committing suicide.  Except it’s not a joke anymore.   Killers have patterns and favored methods.  If a political opponent of Vladimir Putin’s ends up with poison in his system, who jumps to mind as the responsible person?   If there are simultaneous bombings in 3 London cities and bearded young Middle Eastern are reported to have yelled “Allahu Akbar” at the sites, what is the first thing you think of?   Someone close to the Clintons ends up “suicided” and you think, hmmmm.   These people think we just fell off the turnip truck yesterday.

Third, and most troubling is that as a consequence of Obama’s weaponization of the DOJ, FBI and IRS, we have lost faith in the ability of those agencies to investigate fully and fairly.  The arrogance of hyperpartisanship of Jim Comey, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page and Andrew McCabe have left us with little confidence that the agencies charged with unbiased investigative powers will deliver the truth.  The fact that we still do not have answers to the Las Vegas shooting is disturbing, to say the least. 

Was Epstein’s death a result of massive incompetence or was it something much darker and more sinister?

We may never know.  And the Clinton Syndicate will make certain of it.

They've been at this game for a long time.

Thursday, August 8, 2019

A Gun Problem- Or Something More?

The mass shootings in El Paso and Dayton last weekend have elicited more howls for gun control.  These are terrible occurrences and provide a convenient and emotional appeal to put constraints around our Constitutional rights.  The “solutions” posed by Democratic contenders range from enhanced background checks, banning “assault weapons,” government buybacks, and “red flag” laws.  The more authoritarian and frightening liberals like Kamala Harris announced that if Congress won’t act within 100 days (of her inauguration), she will act by executive order.  Beto O’Rourke announced that he would be receptive to “mandatory” buybacks.

The more the Left talks openly about flouting your Constitutional rights, and using government force to deprive you of them, the more tightly you should hold on to your weapons.

As they spew these “solutions” to mass casualty events, protesters in Venezuela, Hong Kong, and Moscow are at this very time wishing they had the same rights as you do to counter government thuggery.  

Ironically, liberals, who are fond of attacking “root causes” when discussing other social maladies dismiss “root causes” when a mass shooting occurs and go straight for your Constitutional rights.

Here are my four biggest reasons for being very skeptical about the Left’s push for gun control:

·        Learn from the experience with abortion.  For years, the Left has been repeating the mantra of “common sense gun control,” arguing that they just want to have protections against people that should not have access to firearms, such as those with sever mental illness or a long criminal history.  And that’s how they get you on board.  Who could be against a denying a deadly weapon to someone with severe paranoid schizophrenia? 

The Left has learned that with sacred things, you have to go slow.  Life is sacred, so the Left argued for years that abortion was to be “safe, legal and rare” and limited to the first trimester.  Who would countenance going back to the days of unsanitary back alley abortions?   Visions of some scared 16 year old girl ending up in a garage with some fat, hairy pseudo-doctor with a cigarette dangling from his mouth and unsterilized utensils is a powerful persuader.  But then, all of a sudden you wake up an New York and Illinois legislatures are cheering and smiling as they approve of abortions up to the moment of birth and the governor of Virginia is talking about a live baby placed in a tray and the mother has “a decision to make.”

How do you get a piano off the third floor?  You disassemble it first, silly.  And that’s what they will do.  Chip, chip, chip.  They will persuade you that each of these little measures they have in mind don’t materially infringe on your rights.  Until one day you wake up and the 2nd Amendment isn’t there anymore.  They’ve disassembled it in pieces.  Denying social security recipients that get help with their finances.   Denying people that end up on no fly lists (notoriously error prone).  Squeezing gun manufacturers by denying them financing.  Limiting magazine size.  And now red flag laws (who gets to decide, that’s the rub—the American Psychological Association that just decided toxic masculinity needs to be treated?)  Drip.  Drip.  Drip.

·        They Left has explicitly told us where they are going.  The New York Times is a must read for all conservatives and libertarians because, through its choice of editorial content will tell you in no uncertain terms where the Left is headed.  Last year, the Times published an op-ed by Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens entitled: Repeal the 2nd Amendment (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/27/opinion/john-paul-stevens-repeal-second-amendment.html?searchResultPosition=19).  It doesn’t get more explicit than that.  The Left wants the 2nd Amendment gone.

·        Despite the fact that the El Paso shooter was from the extreme right, most of the political violence and countenance of political violence is from the Left.   Rand Paul is having part of his lung removed.   Castro doxxed Trump donors.  Antifa prowls the streets of Portland.  AOC has urged social unrest.  Maxine Waters encouraged physical confrontation with Trump supporters.  Reporter Andy Ngo was severely injured by an Antifa mob.  In an era in which bitterness and rancor has become pervasive and the threat of mob violence is growing, the last thing you want to do is to leave yourself exposed and vulnerable without protection.

·        Finally, they are solving the wrong problem.  The Leftist narrative is that there is a growing white supremacist movement.  I see little evidence that it is a  burgeoning movement and that it represents a greater threat to social cohesion than Islamist supremacism, Leftist supremacism (Antifa) or BLM.  There always have been fringe kooks around and the white supremacists couldn’t get their act together to gather up more than a couple of dozen people to do a second rally at Charlottesville.

I do think these mass shootings are symptomatic of a society that is not healthy right now.  And it is only one of the symptoms.   Dozens of our children are dying every day from opioid overdoses across the country.  Every weekend in Chicago is a bloodbath on the South and West sides, so much so that last weekend a hospital had to stop taking in gunshot victims.  Our birthrates are at the lowest level in over 30 years.   Taken together, these pathologies suggest that something is going on that merely taking away a chunk of 2nd Amendment rights won’t fix. (Hint: I will be reading Raghuram Rajan’s new book about the crisis in community, The Third Pillar: How Markets and the State Leave the Community Behind for his insights

Wednesday, July 31, 2019

The Iron Law of Reciprocity


I stopped into my local independent bookstore last week to hear Geoffrey Stone speak on his book, Sex and the Constitution.  I have heard Stone speak on several occasions and have had great respect for him as the engineer of the Chicago Principles, The University of Chicago statement regarding free speech on campus, which has been adopted by 35 schools (at last count) across the country.  The Chicago Principles is a counterweight to the propensity of universities to restrict free speech on campus, enforce “safe spaces,” issue “trigger warnings,” with a particular emphasis on controlling free speech by conservatives.

But my regard for Stone plummeted last year when he buckled to the demands of an Iranian student who implored him to stop using the “N” word to illustrate as an example in class.  I find the “N” word hateful and abhorrent, but I find attempts to constrain free speech more abhorrent and dangerous in a free and open society.

But this week, the bottom fell out during his presentation.  He talked about the Griswald decision (birth control) and marriage equality (Obergefell) but most of his discussion centered on Roe v. Wade.  It is his firm belief that this court will overturn Roe, and that 60% of the states will follow by banning abortion (even if Roe were to be overturned, I think that is wildly off the mark. No more than 5 states would ban the procedure).  He bemoaned the politicized court, and stated that with a few exceptions, five justices now vote in a block—as Mitch McConnell would want them to do.

But what really got my attention were two things.  First, was his open contempt for Evangelical Christians (but refrained from mentioning opposition to Roe by the Catholic Church).  But second, and most disturbing was this statement. When asked what could stop Roe from being overturned, Stone jokingly replied, “You could have a couple of justices assassinated.”  Afterward, even my progressive friends admitted they were taken aback by his comment.  

 I have come to call this a violation of the Iron Law of Reciprocity. 

The comment  by Stone, made flippantly and in jest, caused me to think about what would have happened if a similarly situated academic such as Victor Davis Hanson would have said something analogous, “You know, Oberbefell could be reversed if someone pushed Ruth Bader Ginsburg down the stairs,”  or, “Gerrymandering could be handled if someone put arsenic in John Roberts’s coffee.”  The uproar wouldn’t stop and Hanson would be forced out of his position.  But coming from the Left, things like this pass without comment.

While Evangelical Christians are regarded as troglodytes, folks like Ilhan Omar (who, as if on cue retweeted a tweet celebrating the assault on Rand Paul), and Islamism more generally are afforded a deference not available to other religious groups in the U.S.  Geoffrey Stone wouldn’t dare speak in the same contemptuous tone about Muslims as he does Evangelical Christians.  Omar’s remarks about Jews and white men would get her pilloried in the press if someone else on the right said similar things about gays or blacks.  But Democrats couldn’t even bring themselves to condemn her remarks.

I have developed my own aphorism for this phenomenon.  It is this—you may wish to tolerate Islam, but it has yet to demonstrate that Islam is willing to fully reciprocate.  As one Polish lawmaker put it, “Sure, you can build mosques in Poland, as soon as we can build Catholic churches in Saudi Arabia.” Likewise, I observed that Christianity has been the object of satire in comedic works like Monty Python’s The Life of Brian and Mormonism was skewered in the musical The Book of Mormon.  No sane person would attend opening night of Muhammed the Musical with dancing girls in burkas.  We all know what would likely happen.  Until Islam can comply with the Iron Law of Reciprocity—that is, we should be free to satirize it without fear of physical harm, we should be wary of importing it wholesale and giving it equal stature.

My grandmother often used to say, “What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.”  That principle still holds true.  If one abhors language of violence toward public officials, it should be not be used even in jest by someone like Geoffrey Stone.  If you joke about having a gun at the airport check-in, you know what happens.  Likewise, Islamism should not be afforded any greater protection from criticism or satire than any other faith.  You don’t get a free pass from suggesting or joking about violence and your religion doesn’t get accorded a special exemption.  Perhaps I should start a campaign for a new Constitutional amendment—the Iron Law of Reciprocity.

Thursday, July 25, 2019

American Heroes

We’ve had the anniversaries of the two greatest American achievements of the 20th century this year.  In June, we marked the 75th anniversary of the D-Day invasion, which marked the beginning of the end of the Third Reich.  Last week, we commemorated the 50th anniversary of the moon landing and Neil Armstrong’s first step onto the lunar surface.

While we passed these milestones, I happened to be reading two wonderful books:  Skin in the Game by Nassim Taleb and Frederick Douglass: Prophet of Freedom.

This all got me to thinking of what makes an American hero. In this crazy, divisive, hyperpartisan time, it would do us well to consider that question.

The actions of the men that withstood the hellfire of the Nazi regime and took the beaches at Normandy speak for themselves.

In considering that question, I was struck with the parallels between Aldrin and Douglass.  Different men. Different times. Tackling different problems.  But both true American heroes.

I heard Buzz Aldrin speak in person two years ago at the Printers Row Lit Fest and heard and met Kenneth Morris, Jr. the great great great great grandson of Frederick Douglass at the American Writers Museum last summer.  Morris beamed that he remembers his great grandmother so he touched the hands that touched the hands of Frederick Douglass.  So I was able to touch the hands that touched the hands that touched the hands of Frederick Douglass. 

Both took great physical risks and displayed great physical courage.  Aldrin was propelled in space and landed on the moon with only seconds of fuel left.  No one knew for certain what the outcome of this trip would be.  Douglass took great risks and put it all on the line numerous times over the course of his life.  He escaped slavery.  He suffered several verbal and physical assaults throughout his career.  And in the ultimate demonstration of “skin in the game,” his son fought with the famed 54th Massachusetts colored regiment so vividly depicted in the film Glory.  Neither of these men shrank from physical challenges.

Both lived fully.  At 89, Buzz Aldrin is still lecturing, flying and being vibrant late in life.  Likewise, Douglass worked into old age and never really stopped.  Both Aldrin and Douglass continued to write late in life.  Aldrin published another book in 2016-- his 7th.

And both had messy personal lives, suffered family turmoil and suffered setbacks.  Aldrin was thrice divorced.  Most recently, he was involved in lawsuits and was accused of having dementia.  Frederick Douglass was always bailing out family members financially, lost a son and several grandchildren to early deaths.  Like Aldrin, he was subject of a lawsuit and led the Freedmen’s Bank when it collapsed. 

After spending some time thinking about it, I was struck with the parallels of these two men.  One black one white.  One helped to solve a 19th century problem, one a 20th.  Both men were patriotic and believed in self-reliance. 

Both lived fully and never stopped.  At 89, Buzz Aldrin is still lecturing, flying and vibrant late in life.  Likewise, Douglass worked into old age and never really stopped.  Both Aldrin and Douglass continued to write late in life.  Aldrin published another book in 2016, his 7th.    And having accomplished their primary goals, both men continued to advocate for new frontiers.  With emancipation, Douglass moved on to equal rights, enfranchisement, and ending lynchings in the South.  Aldrin has continued to push for space exploration and a manned excursion to Mars.

But after reading Taleb’s book,  I realized that what really cements them as icons in my mind is that they had skin in the game.  Both sacrificed greatly for their achievements.  Both risked bodily harm and death for their cause.  Douglass did this throughout his life and his son put himself on the front lines of freedom.  Most importantly, their causes were much more than a pursuit of heir own self-aggrandizement.

In my mind, what made Frederick Douglass and Buzz Aldrin so special---true heroes is the risks that they took.  They put themselves on the line for the causes they pursued.

Thursday, July 18, 2019

Quick Hits


 As I close out my 50’s this week (yes, 60 is a big number), here are a few random thoughts and observations in a wild week --- and it’s only Thursday.

·        Leana Wen, director of Planned Parenthood is out after eight months, prompting a twitterstorm of comments about terminating her before full term.  Ironically, she was allegedly terminated for advocating the expansion of health services at the organization.   But the board decided that it needs to be singularly focused on abortion.  The NRA likewise has had leadership problems because it, too, is trying to expand into other pet right wing causes instead of sticking to its primary purpose—defending the Second Amendment.   The difference between the two is that the NRA never denied that it was primarily in the Second Amendment business.

·        Continuing with irony, on this 50th anniversary of the moon landing, arguably one of the greatest and sole achievements of government in the last century, the new vision of these Democrats is providing free health care for the entire Western hemisphere and giving them all the keys to our house.

·        Also in the irony category, Mike Collins visited the launch pad of Apollo 11 for the 50th anniversary.  Neil Armstrong passed away seven years ago and Buzz Aldrin canceled. So, just as he was alone 50 years ago while Armstrong and Aldrin walked on the moon, so again was Collins for the 50th anniversary.

·        And in yet another stroke of irony, House Speaker Pelosi was temporarily relieved of her duties for violating house rules by calling Donald Trump a “racist.”

·        In a poll, 87% of Jews in the U.K. believe that Jeremy Corbyn and the Labor Party are anti-Semitic, which is, as one commentator noted, “is quite an accomplishment for Corbyn, since it is impossible to get 87% of Jews to agree on anything.”

·        After all the hoopla over the Mueller investigation and hush money payments, a judge ended the investigation into the hush money payments.  Put a pin in it.

·        Closer to home, several acquaintances agreed that the most durable and least likely leaders to be deposed over the next five years are Vladimir Putin of Russia, Xi Jinping of China, Kim Jong Un of North Korea and Michael Madigan of Illinois.

·        Also close to home, Chicago mayor Lori Lightfoot approached Illinois governor J.B. Pritzker about having the state take over the city pensions (which are 23% funded).  Pritzker declined (for now) but look to that issue to be raised again.  A consolidation would make it easier to go hat in hand to the feds for a bailout.  You can almost hear the rhetoric, “You did it for Wall Street.  How about us?”

·        And finally, Chance the Snapper, the alligator captured in Chicago’s Humboldt Park, is moving to a sanctuary in Florida.  He also sees the writing on the wall.

·        Lastly, after the Nike decision to go woke on the Betsy Ross flag, I combed my wardrobe and found one nice Nike golf shirt.  Thanks to Amazon, I was able to order a Betsy Ross flag patch and fix the shirt (see above), sewing the patch over the Nike swoosh.  Never let a good golf shirt go to waste.

Thursday, July 11, 2019

Anti-American Chic


I often say that every sport and every quality sports franchise needs a face.  Tiger Woods is still the face of golf.  For years, Michael Jordan was the face of basketball and of the Bulls.  LeBron is the face of basketball today.  Here in Chicago, Patrick Kane and Jonathan Toews are the faces of the Blackhawks.

Sadly for the US women’s soccer team, Megan Rapinoe has thrust herself into that position for the triumphant US women’s soccer team.  But immediately turning the marvelous success of the team into a platform to blather her anti-Trump rhetoric, Rapinoe turned herself into a sort of androgynous hybrid of AOC and Colin Kaepernick, spewing her stuff all over the media, including a shout out to AOC.  Most incredibly, while she stated she would spurn an invitation to the White House, she ended her interview with CNN reporter Anderson Cooper by saying she would meet with anyone “who believes in the same things we believe in.”

Well, that’s inclusive.

Brash, narcissistic, vulgar (MSNBC had to apologize because she used the word m***f**er in her remarks in New York), intolerant, she excoriates Trump for, well, being brash, narcissistic, vulgar and intolerant.

Funny how that works.

She cannot name a single action which has provoked her ire, but rather tosses rocks at the cartoon character image of Trump that the MSM has created in her mind.  The reality is that Trump is the first president that came into office supporting gay marriage and his administration is leading the push to eradicate criminalization of homosexuality worldwide.  But she prattles on about Trump (he lives rent free in her head) and the other supposed injustices that this horrible country has perpetrated. 

It's very sad, because anyone that reads my blog knows that I have been a longtime supporter of women’s athletics, and have been vocal about the threat to it that the transgender movement poses to women’s sports.  I have been a champion of the progress in participation and quality of girl’s and women’s athletics over the past 40 years.  But Rapinoe successfully turned me off following this team. Ordinarily, I would have been riveted to my T.V. for the finals.  I simply found chores to do on Sunday. Instead of celebrating their feat, I’m wholly indifferent.

I dumped N.F.L. football when Colin Kaepernick and his pals turned the N.F.L. into an anti-American extravaganza. And, by the way, we learned last weekend that Kaepernick’s antics weren’t just about claims of police brutality.

I disconnected from the Catholic Church when Pope Francis attacked American capitalism and sovereignty and started to use the language of a garden variety Latin American communist dictator.
Sports and religion should steer clear of politics, not platforms to engage in it.  In other words, STAY IN YOUR LANE.  I watch sports to watch competition, not receive a political message.  I went to church for spiritual enrichment, not hear a public policy argument.  I attend music events to hear a performance, not about “social justice.”  Once you get out of your lane, you lose me.

And thanks to Kaepernick, I ordered a Betsy Ross flag patch to have sewn over the Nike swoosh on my golf shirt.

Never let a good golf shirt go to waste.


Thursday, July 4, 2019

[Un] Happy 4th of July?


I wish I could say with certainty that we have a 100 more Independence Day celebrations ahead of us, but at the moment, things look a little bleak for our Republic.  This doesn’t mean I’m necessarily pessimistic.  Dissent and disagreement are part of the American DNA, and we have demonstrated a large capacity for healing and renewal and I don’t want to underestimate our capacity to do that.  But this year, there are troubling signs that are different than many of the things I have seen in my lifetime, and I will list some that I find disturbing.

1.      False or uncorroborated claims.   This really began with the Clarence Thomas hearings and has accelerated over the past half decade or so.  It took root on college campuses with the Title IX cases under which sexual assault claims are filed months after the supposed incident, are tried by university administrators (not courts of law) and exonerating evidence is kept out of the procedure. Most recently, it reared its ugly head during the Kavanaugh hearings, and reached absurd levels with the Jussie Smollett incident.  Now, AOC has leveled false claims regarding ICE officers and the immigrant detention facilities.  Fortunately, the victims of these false claims have begun to fight back in the courtroom as they have in the Gibson’s Bakery case and the Covington case.  Still, the New Left has weaponized these false claims of racism or sexual assault. 

2.      The Woke Corporation.  Most recently and obscenely demonstrated by Nike’s decision to pull its line of shoes sporting a Betsy Ross flag when Colin Kaepernik. But it is only the most recent.  Dick’s Sporting Goods jumped into the 2nd Amendment fray and stopped selling certain types of guns.  Walmart raised the age limit for buying guns to 21.  Bank of America denied payment processing to gun manufacturers.  Gillette’s ad campaign lectured us about “toxic masculinity.”  Nike also did a Nike Sport Hijab, piously rolling out an ad campaign to sell probably about two dozen of them.  Of course, the most woke is Starbucks which has needle disposal units, opened its bathrooms to everyone, and announced that it would hire illegals.  I stick with Dunkin' now and get served coffee by a cheerful, enthusiastic young African American woman rather than a surly hipster.

3.      Our representatives no longer represent US citizens.  Last year Dick Durbin announced that he was working full time for DACA kids.  How about us in Illinois,  Dick?  Don’t you think we have some problems to be solved?  It is clear that Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar are CAIR’s representatives in Congress.  This madness reached a crescendo last week when ALL of the Democratic presidential candidates supported providing FREE health care to illegals.  One outraged small business owner said to me, “Since Obamacare, I can’t even afford my own health care.  Now I’m supposed to work even harder and sell more stuff to provide health care for someone from Guatemala?”  This affirmative decision to represent the interests of the citizens of other nations and make the interests of US citizens subordinate is rot to the Republic.

4.      Not accepting ballot outcomes and ballot monkey business.  Hillary Clinton for months did not accept the outcome of 2016.  She manufactured dozens of excuses and then the Left began its push for the elimination of the Electoral College (which in my view would tear apart the Republic permanently).  Stacey Abrams continues to assert that she won her election in Georgia.   The ballot harvesting and lack of controls in Broward county were astonishing.  It will be nearly impossible to keep illegals from voting.  Not accepting outcomes and ballot monkey business threaten or electoral system.

5.      Finally, and most perniciously is the constant threat of violence from the New Left that is countenanced by politicians and the MSM.  It crept in with Black Lives Matter, chanting for the death of police officers (and Obama subsequently met with their representatives in the White House).  Maxine Waters called for harassing Trump administration people.  Conservatives have been doxed and threatened.  A mob showed up at Tucker Carlson’s home.  Sarah Huckabee Sanders was harassed in a restaurant.  Antifa has been the most notorious and has been permitted to gather, damage property and commit violence—and echo of Weimar Germany, most recently attacking and severely injuring journalist Andy Ngo, while the Portland mayor sat on his hands.  The Left excused the play depicting the Trump murder scene in Central Park and Kathy Griffin’s stunt with a beheaded Donald Trump as ‘artistic expression’ but that continues to deteriorate into real violence and threats of real violence.

I’m not part of the gloom crew.  We’ve gotten through Shays’ Rebellion, Bloody Kansas, the turbulent 60’s, and of course, the great Civil War.  We have a long history of squabbling and even brawling and finding a way to hang in there together.  But these are real challenges and need to be addressed if we are to be celebrating the 4th 50 years from now.